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The Duke of Westminster Plans to Take Over Liverpool City Centre

david green | 10.12.2003 09:35 | Liverpool

The Duke, the council and Business elite to 'privatise' central Liverpool and exclude the working class.

In the city of culture, the real culture is excluded.



THE Duke of Westminster, Britain’s richest man, with the support of Liverpool City Council, The Stores Committee (the business elite – i.e. owners of city centre big business) and the police and private security firms intend to privatise a large part of Liverpool city centre. They intend to create what they describe as ’a new urban village’ with its own social laws and police force. The plan, which will see 35 streets in the heart of the city sealed off and redeveloped, has sparked anger among locals and civil liberty groups.

While the duke’s company, Grosvenor Estates, claims that the £750m redevelopment will transform the area for the better, before Liverpool becomes European Capital of Culture in 2008, his critics say the plans are an attempt to escalate the gentrification of the city centre, exclude those the wealthy define as ‘undesirable’ and make even more money for those who have been stealing off the city for years. And with the area having its own private police force this raises further issues, even for liberal organisations like Liberty. “This is a very disturbing development,” said Barry Hugill, a spokesman for the civil liberties group. “It raises concerns as to whether a private police force is going to decide who can and cannot come into a public place.”

Despite such objections, the duke’s plans are already well advanced. Grosvenor Estates recently secured from the city council a 250-year lease on an area that stretches from Paradise street to the Pier Head. The company intends to spend £100m on the compulsory purchase of all the buildings in the area. It will then create in their place a swish new shopping centre and a village of 350 yuppie flats, penthouses and town houses, all well beyond the economic reach of local people.

Among the places facing destruction are the Quaker owned ‘Friends meeting house’ and ‘Quiggins’ a rich culture haven for the young of the city, as well as second hand bookshops, cafes and other small businesses. One of the most sickening elements, however, is the duke’s plan to ring-fence the new community and police it using US-style “quartermasters” or sheriffs. Who will have the power to exclude local people from the area. The city council, already lapdogs to previous ‘developments’ that have feathered the pockets of developers and done nothing for the local population, agree with the aims of the project saying only that the regular police and other emergency services will be allowed access but the duke’s sheriffs will “maintain standards”. They will have the power to block off roads and prevent undesirables using facilities such as ‘pubs and shops in the area. Vagrants, skateboarders, unruly gangs of youths and demonstrators can all expect to be turned away at its entrances’.

A two-month public inquiry which ended last month heard that Grosvenor’s streets would have traditional rights of way replaced by “public realm arrangements” policed by “quartermasters” with powers to eject people. Private security companies have similar powers in shopping centres but it is thought this is the first time that they have been given the right to decide who walks through a city’s streets. Donald Lee, an Open Spaces Society spokesman, said: “When I asked city council officials why the new routes could not be dedicated as public rights of way, it was explained to me that the council and the developers needed to be in a position to ‘control and exclude the riffraff element’.”

Liberty is outraged and has instructed lawyers to find a way to mount a legal challenge. A petition of 150,000 has also been collected calling for Quiggins, to be protected from demolition. Even Mike McCartney, the brother of Paul and a former member of the Liverpool band the Scaffold, warned that if the developers got rid of Quiggins they risked losing the “soul and individuality” of the city.

Grosvenor Estates, which already owns swathes of Mayfair and Belgravia in London, claims that the development will bring big benefits to Liverpool. Rodney Holmes, Grosvenor’s project director, said: “People tell us they don’t come shopping in Liverpool because it’s dirty, there is chewing gum all over the place and pavements are cracked. We are developing a series of quarters for the area which will have security staff making sure that people maintain reasonable standards of behaviour.”

The city council is also a firm supporter of the project, which it describes as the biggest of its type in Europe. It sees it as a vital component of the city’s regeneration and says it could create 4,000 crap jobs for locals. While big multinational retailers have already committed to the scheme, it has meant the end for small locally run business. Planning permission has already been granted for the project but John Prescott, the deputy prime minister, is expected to make a final decision early next year.
It seems they are calling us to battle.

More Info on The Duke and

The title of Duke of Westminster was created by Queen Victoria in 1874 and handed to Richard Grosvenor the 3rd Marquess of Westminster.

The baronetcy of the Grosvenor family was created by James I in 1622. Richard Grosvenor the 6th Baronet was created Baron Grosvenor of Eaton in 1761 and in 1784 became both Viscount Belgrave and Earl Grosvenor under George III. The title Marquess of Westminster was bestowed upon Robert Grosvenor the 2nd Earl Grosvenor at the coronation of William IV in 1831.

* Sir Richard Grosvenor, 1st Baronet (1584-1645)
* Sir Richard Grosvenor, 2nd Baronet
* Sir Thomas Grosvenor, 3rd Baronet (1656-1700)
* Sir Richard Grosvenor, 4rd Baronet (1689-1732)
* Sir Thomas Grosvenor, 5th Baronet (1693-1733)
* Sir Robert Grosvenor, 6th Baronet (-1755)
* Richard Grosvenor, 1st Earl Grosvenor, 7th Baronet (1731-1802)
* Robert Grosvenor, 1st Marquess of Westminster, 2nd Earl Grosvenor (1767-1845)
* Richard Grosvenor, 2nd Marquess of Westminster (1795-1869)
* Hugh Lupus Grosvenor, 1st Duke of Westminster, 3rd Marquess of Westminster (1825-1899)
* Hugh Richard Arthur Grosvenor, 2nd Duke of Westminster (1879-1953)
* William Grosvenor, 3rd Duke of Westminster (1894-1963)
* Gerald Hugh Grosvenor, 4th Duke of Westminster (1907-1967)
* Robert George Grosvenor, 5th Duke of Westminster (1910-1979)
• Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor, 6th Duke of Westminster (1951-) The man bankrolling the ‘Urban Village’ plans.
As well as Duke of Westminster the Duke also holds the titles of Marquess of Westminster, Earl Grosvenor, Viscount Belgrave, Baron Grosvenor of Eaton, and is a baronet.

The duke has continued to top the Sunday Times Rich List as Britain's wealthiest individual for many years. An estimated fortune of £4.9 billion is derived largely from property in central London, where he owns approximately 300 acres of the most exclusive commercial and residential real estate in Mayfair and Belgravia (including the land on which the US Embassy stands, in Grosvenor Square), as well as estates in Lancashire, Cheshire and Scotland.
The Duke also bankrolls the Countryside Alliance to the tune of millions of pounds.

david green

Comments

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>The situation In Liverpool is akin to the klondike goldrush at the moment,

17.12.2003 11:41

a huge influx of capital has swelled the heads of the civic authorities and the city fatcats walletstoo. Also the old regime of liberal capitalism, even labour friendly municipal socialism, has been replaced by a more aggresive dog eat dog approach. As more foreign investment pours into the city attracted by the scenery,cheap labour, the low property prices due to the inability or the disinclination, of the locals to buy their house. Whether this is due to political or social and economic aspirations,driven down under the Thatcher regime, the city gave battle,but was hammered into the ground , the common expression was that she did more damage than the Luftwaffe. Since then a new petty bourgoisie has grown up unchallenged by organised labour, and predominantly feeding off the IT consumer boom,a yuppie class modelled on London in the 80s. We are going throught the sexy TV makeover that others have h
> ad, even
> Toxteth the scene of much violence and riots after decades of neglect and police oppression is becoming a safe area to invest and buy up property. Soon the city will have a name change and become a hamlet or a sleepy meadow with nice yachts for the rich,sailing boats and tourist buying souvenirs from the slave trading past,and the socialist led insurrections in the city during the 80s quaintly painted on mugs and t-shirts.
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>The "private streets" that are planned, are near to the Albert Dock area the high income, transient disposable income zone flocked to by tourists.
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>The cops are already roughing up Big issue sellers on the sly and making their lives a misery, if they empower the goons anymore they will do streetcleaning brazillian fashion. They dont want to spoil the image for the nice tourist buying up the goods from the expensive designer label shops sprouting up all ove the show.
>
>Tara for now
>

Johno


The Nature of the Beast

02.01.2004 13:48

I would like to add to the debate brought to the fore by DG's article

"The Duke, the council and Business elite to 'privatise' central Liverpool and exclude the working class."

Firstly, I would like to say that the scale of the development and personalities behind the development make this project one for "obvious" struggle between an outside developer and the native population of Liverpool City Centre. However, if we are serious about these issues we must also act when less profilic developers use dubious methods, as recently in the Myrtle Street area, through intimidation and bullying to acquire prime sites in the city centre.

I lived through the upheaval and tearing apart of city centre communities during the 60's and 70'. I, like many of my generation was moved out of the community I was born in (in my particular case "The Bullring" St Andrew's Gardens) to the outskirts of the city. Living in Deysbrook, Tower Hill and Huyton before eventually moving back to the city centre.

Promised, progress and better housing conditions, we left thriving communities to inhabit housing estates of alienation, a class ridden education system and forms of damp, mould and peeling wallpaper unique to those of us forced to live in Bauhaus architecture on the cheap.

Paradise Street Development Area - The Scheme can be found on the Liverpool City Council website with all the minutes of the meetings during the formation of this project. The main points of interest to me....

The council states that the number of residential apartments will be (364 units), ancillary accommodation, two hotels, ancillary facilities, 3,000 car parking spaces, new means of access.

The Compulsory Purchase Orders

The Council approved reports on the 13 December 2002 and 21 March 2003 in respect of the use of its powers of compulsory purchase on behalf of the developer, Grosvenor Limited.
The Compulsory Purchase Orders were made and sealed on 28 March 2003 and statutory notices have now been issued to all parties with interests in the order lands.

So who is the real culprit here. As Chomsky argues you cannot say it is a conspiracy when capitalists engage in capitalism, that is the nature of the beast. The real culprit here is the city council who are not fighting for "inclusion" of the local population in any development plans.

We get the council we deserve, 99 people voted in with miniscule numbers of votes bending over in deference to anyone walking into the city waiving a wad of cash. We on the left bear some of the responsibility discussion with friends in Liverpool yields that since the demise of Militant involvement in council elections is frowned upon.

Fine, but don't moan then if you end up with a group of local councillors without any "will" to stand up for the people of Liverpool in the face of people wishing to place restrictions on the liberties of ordinary person on the street.

If such liberties are restricted we should stand shoulder to shoulder to "fight" for our rights (for we have no option know the council has sold us out). However, we should not let any councillor stay in office that sanctions any limitation on the freedoms of ordinary people in Liverpool or cultural cleansing of the city centre. All councillors should have their records on these issues examined. All the minutes are on the council website. What can we expect leaving a vacuum for those currently signing the compulsory purchase orders.

Robert Tierney
mail e-mail: pertier@pertier.com


response to voting for councillors

03.01.2004 21:18

In response to Robert's point about getting the councillors we deserve. I think people don't vote becase they have no faith in councilors doing anything - we have seen it all before. I also think its stage one of being positive about changing things if people don't vote it shows they are too cynical or apathetic to vote for people who at the end of the day wil either never represent them or be co-opeted into boring tedious meeting and a boring slow system that they too will end up being cynical about changing anything. The point is getting people to realize that teh system and city will get more and battered unless the people take an active part in trying to change it - not voting for someone who says they will change it for them.
How many years were the left saying 'vote labour' who were the groups saying for years - even when the tories were in power ' labour, tory same old story' - well mainly anarchists and non-aligned lefties - which is not to say we should then have faith in them. We should have faith in no-one who says they will represted us. When as any labour government done anything for working class people? Only they the state and capitlaism has felt itself under threat and when has voting changed anything??? even Ken Livingstone said 'If voting changed anything they would abolise it'. We need to start to build alternatives that we, the people, without so called representives, control - we need to start building our own media or own centres just like they are doing in Spain, Italy, Greece and other countries. At this point in time we should not attempt to give the system which is attempting to destroy us any credibilty, its credibilty is lost and we should act on that.

David Green


Thoughts for Engagement

05.01.2004 13:25

I fully understand the tendency toward apathy based upon the Lib-Dem, Labour, Tory scenario that non of these groupings have a track record of looking after the interests of our class. Our class is diverse and hardly definable, but we know who have power and those who do not. Those of us who are discriminated against and denied opportunities because of the prejudices of those who have the power and own the wealth in society, all my brothers and sisters who have experienced any form of discrimination or lack of opportunity are my class.

You say apathy is stage one being positive.

I say total apathy has led to empowering (Riverside) Louise Ellman MP (supports the war in Iraq, who support and defends the excesses of a brutal right-wing regime in Israel) and a group of Labour councillors who would place a smile on the face Margaret Thatcher.

I agree we should not expect anything from the parliamentary or council processes to actively do anything "for" us but the void allows certain interest groups at parliamentry level on foreign affairs and at local level on business and environmental issues to run amok totally unchecked.

Should we disengage because of having to engage in "boring tedious meeting and a boring slow system"

I am not advocating voting for any of the three existing alternatives if their are true "class" interests in this city which I believe there are then if that class cannot move by both building alternatives that we, the people, without so called representives, control - building our own media or own centres just like they are doing in Spain, Italy, Greece and other countries. I do not advocate giving credibility to the sytem but being aware that total disengagement allows for the present situation of us having Liverpool MP's who are "active" warmongers and some councillors that I personally think should be placed against a wall for what they do behind closed doors to the detriment of our class. It also grieves me to see many of our friends on the left hob-nobbing and arse kissing with these characters.

Livingstone is of course right, if voting did "really" change things it would be abolished. But, who would you rather have in his post Ken or Lord Archer. Louise Ellman or George Galloway so on and so on. I want all the things you want David Green but I would also like to see some effort in ousting some of the right wing (mainly Labour Party) elements on our Liverpool political scene and muster support and proposals for alternatives. This should be extra work as well as all the projects you spoke of David. But if we ignore this side of the struggle I feel it is a major strategical error on the part of the left in Liverpool

Robert Tierney


Response ousting parliment and the goons in power is our real job

05.01.2004 17:04

Just a very quick response. Even if we put up our own candidates for election it would still lead to the same thing - as Militant did, Loads of people dissalusioned, pissed off, apathetic which is worse when people believe the left will change nothing.
We must make politicians and the likes irrelavant. You can lobby Louise Elman for years and she knows as long as you are lobbying her you are playing her game, its when she is ignored and thousands of people wont listen to her reason. Politicians and the rulers still have power becasue we are conned by their system becasue we maintain it, becasue we play by thier rules. i.e. 'if you don't like it why don't you vote for someone you like, or get someone to stand who you like'. That's how the state etc has always bought people off, that's how they were bought off in the past, that's how soldiers coming back from the second world war holding on to their guns were bought off with concessions and promises by politicians. No government has ever represented the working class. And the quicker we understand that we need to organise on our terms, and the bigger we become, the bigger the fear they will feel and the quicker they will offer us concessions we have to be in a postion and make sure that this time we don't buy them.
All the best
We have to start at the the beggining off reality and that reality is we have never lived in a democracy ever - just a state of hegemony.

David Green


Final Point - In Solidarity

05.01.2004 21:04

The disenfranchised Kurdish majority of Southeast Turkey have seen hundreds of socialists jailed tortured and worse for wanting the simple right to form a political party and vote democratically for that party. HEP, DEP, HADEP, DEHAP all have fought and paid a human price over the years for the democratic principles we now refuse to engage in, and throw away so cheaply. We have to agree to differ on this point David. But I promise you one thing if anyone tries to deny anyone access to any part of this city unduly I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you to oppose them. In solidarity Robert

Robert Tierney


YOUR ALL IDOTS

30.01.2004 03:09

********THE DUKE OF WESTMINSTER IS GENRAL PETROCOV OFF THE SOVIET ARMY**********

THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE HIS EXPLOTATION IS TO REMOVE THIS SOVIET THIEF FROM ENGLAND WITH HIS FRIENDS PRESCOTT AND MAJORS OR IS IT BLAIR THIS YEAR!

*********DOES ANY ONE IN THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH STUDY LOGIC ,THIS MAN YOU CALL THE DUKE OF WESTMINSTER IS ACOMPLETE FRAUD ************************************************

THEON NAHALEWICZ WHOM PRETENDS TO BE THE QUEEN IS OF ENGLAND IS A CZECH WHORE WHO GREW UP IN HOBART TASMANIA, THEY ALL ACQIURED THERE WELTH FROM DEPOSING THE DUKES OF THE COMMONWEALTH AND REAL PRINCES AND THEIR ALLIES*******************WAKE UP!!!!!!!! YOU DONT SIT AROUND AND F***** FINGER POINT AT WHEN YOU DO NOT SHOOT AT THE CORRECT TARGET YOURSELVES**********************************************************************




*******************************************

CRAIG STUAR TDOPUGLAS HAMILTON
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Horrified

04.02.2004 13:00

-Firstly, I think the last guy was having a laugh. Nice one.

This is absolutely sickening - it is a plan for an rich enclave that will parasitise the city and give absolutely nothing back.

This is not gentrification. Gentrification comes from the people who live in the area becoming financially empowered. This is colonisation and deliberate segregation.

I pray this does not go through.

Luke Mosse
mail e-mail: manic@muppet.co.uk
- Homepage: http://manic@muppet.co.uk


Duke of Westminster is also senior officer in British Army

20.02.2004 23:12

I don't know how well it is known that the Duke of Westminster, in addition to being chairman of Grosvenor Holdings and Britain's richest man, is also a two star Major General in the British Army. He is now Assistant Defence secretary having been promoted from his former rank of Brigadier to take on the role. (See 'The Scotsman' 18th Feb 2004). He has been appearing along with other military top brass at the Parliamenmtary Defence Committee hearings on 'the lessons of Iraq'.

Mister LLL


THE 6TH DUKE OF WESTMINSTER DIED IN 1981

26.03.2004 08:46

THE 6TH DUKE OF WESTMINSTER MY GREAT UNCLE DIED IN 1981, FROM KGB AND WAFFEN SS BOMB.
THE PERSON ACTING AS THE DUKE OF WESTMINSTER IN LONDON IS A FRUAD AND IS NO RELATION TO THE GROSVENORS OR ANY ROYAL FAMILY OR DUKEDOM.

THE LIVERPOOL UPGRADE SHOULD BE GOOD FOR TRADE AND BUSINESS, THOUGH THE 7TH DUKE OF WESTMINSTER HAS NOT APPROVED THE PLANS.

THE 2 VERSIONS I HAVE SEEN OF THE DUKE OF WESTMINSTER DO NOT BRING TO MIND ANY FAMILY RELATION OR FAMILY HIER, THOUGH I SUPPOSE THE LIVERPOOL WAFFEN GESTAPO SS AND THE
GUTLESS SWINE PIG ON THE COUNCIL BRENDAN STOREY AND PRESCOTT WHO WAS RELEASED FROM RISDON PRISON IN HOBART, ARE HAVING HELL OFF A TIME AT YOUR TAX PAYERS EXPENSE,

THE REAL DUKE " MYSELF WISHES YUO ALL THE BEST IN LIVERPOOL THOUGH MIND THE GUNFIRE WHEN I GET HOME, AND PLEASE DO NOT BOTHER YUORSELVES WITH MINOR DETIAL LIKE WHERE ARE 15+ DUKES AND 9+ PRINCES OF THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH, Have you noticed "charles of germnays" face mask slipping, lately.

THE GOVERNMENT REP THAT QUOTES THE DUKE OF WESTMINSTER IS MAJOR GENERAL TWO STAR IS INCORRECT.

THE REAL DUKE OF WESTMINSTER CRAIG STUART DOUGLAS HAMILTON FLT LT.WING COMMANDER ROYAL AIR FORCE, GENERAL ROYAL MARINES KNIGHTS GARTER ORDER OF ST ANDREWS,COLONEL IN CHIEF ROYAL KING HUSSARS AND COMMODORE ROYAL NAVY,TRAINING IN MINESWEEPERS FROM AGED 6.

YES!"DOUGLAS HAMILTON" MACDONNELL DOUGLAS RECALL BRITIAN USED TO OWN MACDONNEL DOUGLAS BEFORE THE NAZIS TOOK OVER,

GIVE MY BEST TO THE KREMLIN, PLEASE DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES STRESS YOURSELVES ON YOUR OWN, COUNTRYS OR KIDS BEHALF JUST KEEP NODDING AT THE TELEVISION

DO YOU SPEAK GERMAN!HOBART FRAUD SQUAD HAVE A COMPLETE FILE ON PRESCOTT AND STOREY

GOOD LUCK,

SIR CRAIG STUART DOUGLAS HAMILTON
7TH DUKE OF WESTMINSTER
DUKE OF ABERCORN
DUKE OF WINDSOR

CRAIG STUART DOUGLAS HAMILTON HRH PRINCE OF YORK
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The Duke of Westminster is a Wanker

06.04.2004 19:18

All the rich wankers who profit from the working class are nothing but parasite wankers.

Hate The Rich


Time for action

22.06.2004 10:41

It's time for action.

Did you know that if we all join our pension plans under proposed "self managed pension plan" legislation, we could all combine our funds, bid for these properties and beat these ass*%$*# at their own game.

Please send emails with your thoughts to  bernie_walsh@hotmail.com

Action not words!!

The Captain


VISION

03.08.2004 16:30

all see what happens
all here what happens
all no what happens
not all stands for what happens
to be a scouser is to see hear speak and act upon what we see
liverpool will take its place as capital of england and all non scouse money orgs want their piece @ what price to me and my fello scouser is yet to be seen we are @ liverpools time in history we are in historys place for marking time we in liverpool are in the time the place @ the right time and this is are time to shine are time as liverpool to leave the everlasting mark in history for scousers will we take this chance or will all others who no how history record will others yet again steal rape and pillage are place in the history of this planet



tucker

THOMAS MOORE
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What about development

06.11.2004 12:40

Developers have needs as well. Who will feed their families if they cannot develop anything. Development does not necc. mean destruction, what about the positive influence of Starbucks on London's Coffee drinkers. Everyone who needs coffee has benefited from so - called development, which is too often ridiculed.

Also, what about the Docklands development, fixing up all of that old stuff to make all nice. And some of the people who know live there are really nice, I know some of them.

Just think about the wider picture as well.

Love to all.

The Skipper

Grant


why fight it ? maybe it's good ?

02.01.2005 21:52

Although the idea of private security is suspect, its perhaps the only bad point in all of this.

The population of Liverpool is in steady decline, leaving more and more underdeveloped areas to crop up and become hotbeds of crime.

A secure area for affluent people attracts wealthy people to the area, increasing spending in the area and attracting major business, aswell as providing extra income for local businesses.

this then increases employement and employment prospects in several economic sectors throughout the city encouraging further redevelopment .....

creating an upward cycle for the entire city, benefitting the entire population with increased employment prospects and services.

Mark Brew


Gentrification=anti-unification

02.10.2005 03:21

I've sent an e-mail directly to the City of Liverpool Coucil about the pitfalls of developments that favour only a specific sect of society and if time allows will send a hard -copy of the message also and suggest that all of you do the same. Here in Vancouver developers are expected to develop 20% for affordable housing (co-ops,etc)and also have a stipulated percentage of their development dollar for local artwork. I you are developing an online petition please inform me. The address for the petition will also be passed on.
(isn't the internet wonderful)

roger h. (vancouver, Canada)

roger Howie
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