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Antifa Statement on Police Informant Matthew Gibbons - Meeting Called

People involved but not leaders of the investigation | 25.09.2009 15:46

There have been two recent posts to the newswire concerning the identification of police informant Matthew Gibbons, these being

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/09/438632.html

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/09/438057.html

Some people have raised doubt about the evidence of these claims so on Saturday there will be a public meeting organised by some of us who have been involved so far where the evidence in full will be available to be seen. This will be at the SUMAC Centre, 245 Gladstone Road Nottingham NG7 6HX starting at 7pm.

The evidence is paper and IT based and a computer will be made available for any that want to see the technology trail that was generated, none of the evidence will be available to be copied or removed.

Travel Details
Buses 67 & 68 (yellow line), circular routes from Trinity Square to Hyson Green, run along Berridge Road. Get off at the junction with Foxhall Road, by 'Screaming Carrot' vegan bakery and walk up to Gladstone Street.

Buses 69/70/71/72/87 from Trinity Square, run up Mansfield Road and Sherwood Rise. Ask for the Berridge Road stop and walk as above.

From the Broad Marsh Bus Station, near the Railway Station, buses 80/81/82 go via Parliament St, by the Victoria Centre, through Canning Circus and along Alfreton Road to Radford Road, where there is a stop at the west end of Gladstone Street, by the police station. A 4minute walk along Gladstone Street gets you to the centre.

People involved but not leaders of the investigation

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Good to hear

25.09.2009 15:57

Well done to the peeps who set this up, if this scum is a grass then we need to see the evidence.

I'll be there

Well done

dodgy

25.09.2009 16:02

all the people who know this guy are up north. if theirs to be a meeting why is it so far south?
how are people going to present evidence obtained ilegally at a public meeting?
and baring in mind he is a member of fascist thug organisation the england defence league, who is going to slag him off to his face.
why do i have a feeling that the accusations are going to be left with one person.

eh?

when?

25.09.2009 16:04

when? and why so far south?

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Still strikes me as dodgy

25.09.2009 16:07

It good that the evidence (if that's what it is) will be open for us to see but I'm concerned if all we see is just paper copies of what's been shown here on Indy and the like. We are talking about a man's life here, anyway I intend to go and have a look.

Judge John Deed

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Why and When ?

25.09.2009 16:10

Saturday at 7pm SUMAC Centre

Why there ? Not all the people who have been involved in this are from the York area, one person has a lot of information on a computer and that person lives near SUMAC. If there is enough interest we might be able to set up more screenings in other parts of the country.

People involved but not leaders of the investigation

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25.09.2009 16:16

best to get all this out in the open and then comrades can make up their own minds based on facts so I approve of this public (with some restrictions I hope !) meeting to see what all the fuss has been about. I can't make it (skint) but do post here with what people thought.

London

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London Showing

25.09.2009 16:24

We at the Belgrade Social Centre would be up for hosting a showing of the evidence if you wanted to come to London.

Drop us an email if you want to set something up

Belgrade Road
mail e-mail: 2abelgraderoad@riseup.net
Homepage: http://www.belgraderoad.wordpress.com

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rampARTS can help

25.09.2009 16:32

28th. September 8 till 11
Rampart Social Centre, 15-17 Rampart Street, Whitechapel, E1 2LA

After the Rampart meeting on the 28th we are having a social cafe to be able to relax and spend time with our visitors. First cafe of what we hope will be a weekly event. We would be ok for showing the evidence you have in the rampARTS centre at that time as part of the cafe event.

Call on 07050 618445
Email on rampart[at]mutualaid.org

rampARTS

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Transport needed

25.09.2009 16:36

If anybody from Wales is going to this I'd really appreciate a life. People I know have been involved here and I would like to see for myself what this evidence is, can help with fuel costs.

Call me on 07835 993125

No Borders South Wales
mail e-mail: noborderswales@riseup.net

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Location of Gibbons

25.09.2009 16:55

Anybody know where Gibbons is now ? Perhaps he might like to turn up and defend himself ?

Interested

North. . . . .

25.09.2009 21:08

As the allegations do concern Yorkshire activists - can a meeting be arranged here.

I'm sure The Common Place could host such an event - not all of us have the means to get down to Nottingham.

Thanks

Yorkie

Common as muck

25.09.2009 22:14

"I'm sure The Common Place could host such an event"

Since the Common Place are currently blocking antifascist meetings that hardly seems likely. Maybe this piece of shit isn't the only police informant.

Observer

@ Observer

25.09.2009 23:10

I had no idea The Common Place was blocking antifash activity - I only suggested it coz it would seem an obvious choice.

My ignorance in this matter does not mean I'm in anyway collaborating with the state - if you have made this erroneous assumption then go fuck yourself.

Wanker

Yorkie

Trolling

25.09.2009 23:19

Gibbons trolling of this and other Indymedia threads really is quite pathetic - Not quite as pathetic as his posts on this Fash forum though:

www.nwn-forum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2166

Nazi Hunter

Try posting sober

25.09.2009 23:23

"My ignorance in this matter does not mean I'm in anyway collaborating with the state - if you have made this erroneous assumption then go fuck yourself.

Wanker "

I wasn't making that assumption you thick cunt.

Observer

Juge Jury And Executioner

26.09.2009 06:25

I find it very hard to believe that so many people on here frown about the court / legal system on here yet see fit to try and convict a man on what a load of nameless people say on Indymedia. If this is what the Anarcho / Left Wing brigade a fair trial then I hope they never get a foot hold in this country. The legal system in the UK is bad enough but fuck me this is even worse!

If a political activist in this country was sent down on evidence that has been presented here you'd all be up in fucking arms and quite rightfully so. Maybe all trials should be put through indymedia and then no one could complain if they were found guilty on what anonymous posters have said.

Thank fuck we still have a legal system here because I for one would rather take a chance through that then what I've seen on here.

Personally if you don't trust that Matt geezer or his partner then quite simply don't deal with him. If you do trust them that is your own choice. Whatever you choose is then down to your own judgement. Then that should be the end of it!

Juge Jury And Executioner

to Juge

26.09.2009 10:04

Indymedia is not the "count" in which Gibbons is being "tried". There has already been an investigation by people who know what they are doing having dealt with grasses before. The information that came out of that is being posted on Indymedia so all can know the result, and the emails/photos distributed for all to see. Do you really think that the entire world and their dogs should be involved before hand. This is not a decision that was taken lightly, and only done after people were positive he was a grass and fash supporter.

Other groups directly involved have seen the evidence and support the outcome - hence the Antifa statement.

What more do you actually want? What could be posted on Indymedia that would actually satisfy you - I notice you are silent about that?

No doubt if the stuff was not distributed then you'd would be moaning just as much!

The most important thing is that proven informers are exposed and that information is distributed as widely as possible.

CALIU

This would be a very stupid thing to do

26.09.2009 11:54

Right, so some self-trained, self-appointed detectives think they have proof that this man is a police informant. And this announcement says that the evidence is going to be shown on a computer and on paper.

Erm, have any of you heard of the Regualtion of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA)? It's something that anyone with any real knowledge of ICT security knows very well, but apparently not these super-sleuths.

To simplfy, what you need to know is that it's a serious crime to perform the kind of investigation that is claimed to have taken place here without Home Office approval. So if you publicly demonstrate what you've done to gain this evidence, you can expect to go down. For a long, long time. Sentencing guidelines put RIPA on a par with the OSA (official secrets act).

Unless, erm, you HAD Home Office approval? Just think about that for a second folks....

That's before you even start to think about the violation of the human rights act (right to privacy, right to a fair trial) and data protection act.

But then, hey, this is antifa, so I expect you've already thought of all that, right? Your powers of deduction are so great that when the cop walks through the door of the SUMAC to see who's infringing RIPA, you'll know straight away, right?

you silly billies

Don't be a Dick

26.09.2009 11:58

anyone with any genuine knowledge of, or interest in this stuff is going to be at Operation Liberation today

so this one is strictly for keyboard warriors only

(private dick)

Don't believe everything you read

26.09.2009 13:04

If you want to hold a meeting (antifa or otherwise) at the common place I suggest you e-mail the bookings collective and ask them rather than relying on what some idiot writes on indymedia

http://www.thecommonplace.org.uk/booking.html

Myth Dispeller

@ Interested

26.09.2009 14:02

For those who have been wondering, it would appear Matt Gibbons is still in York as his shop Kyi-po is still open. I've made a point of walking past every day as I've been curious to know if anything has been happening but all appears normal. I caught sight of Matt lighting a cigarette outside the shop doorway on Wednesday. He looked a very worried man, as well he might under the circumstances.

I still don't know what to make of this story and further speculation seems pointless until we have more evidence. I still think it could be some sort of bizarre hoax but if it does turn out to be true then it really is very creepy and disturbing.

I wish I could get to the meeting but it is too short notice and too far for me to travel by public transport. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, a lot of crap gets posted on Indymedia and it is always crawling with trolls so if anyone is unsure about how reliable my comments are, Patrick at Veggies / Sumac Centre knows me.

York vegan

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Good to hear

dodgy

when?

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Still strikes me as dodgy

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Why and When ?

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rampARTS can help

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Transport needed

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Location of Gibbons

North. . . . .

Common as muck

@ Observer

Trolling

Try posting sober

Juge Jury And Executioner

to Juge

This would be a very stupid thing to do

Don't be a Dick

Don't believe everything you read

@ Interested

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